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" knew he was different in his sexuality. I went to his parities as a straight minority. It never seemed a threat to my masculinity. He only introduced me to a wider reality." -Rush. Nobody's Hero

**edit 5/9/12**Arg!! Amendment 1 in N.C. Passed! :( I'm so sorry! I wish I lived there (ok, maybe not) but I wish I had a say in the matter. I don't think anyone should be able to vote against someone else's rights. I wish reading a Yahoo article about this earlier and one of the commentators put it quite nicely:

"Let's see, a Majority of people, deciding the rights of a "Minority" ... that sounds fair. - NOT !
That would require that ALL the "majority" be, honest, fair, objective, non--prejudice, empathic, sympathetic, able to put aside their own personal beliefs for the betterment of the state/country and totally non-partisan....yeah ..THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN !!"

I thought that summed it up exactly. See, people are still bitching and moaning that Prop 8 in CA got shot down by a judge, because "majority is supposed to rule" but here's the thing,what if the majority of the population decided that you should be put to death. No real reason for it, just one day there was a vote and the majority of the population decided that they didn't like you...so...bye-bye. Or, a less extreme example: what if the majority of people decided to strip YOU of your right to marry who you want by either forcing an arranged marriage with someone you don't love, or telling you that you can't marry at all. In either case, would you be like "oh, well if that's what the majority wants...ok" No!! you'd be pissed, and with good reason. So why is it ok to vote against the other people's rights?? I just don't get it.



This is a topic that is very important to me, even thought I'm straight. It's about equality and freedom. I see nothing wrong with the homosexual lifestyle. They are not harming me, my family, or anyone else. Never have I met a gay person who hated straight people just for being straight. Never have I met a gay person who wanted someone else's freedom to marry taken way just because they don't live that lifestyle.

Here, I want to point out some of the common reasons why people are so against legalizing gay marriage and adoption. I'll start with gay marriage.


Reason #1- "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." This would imply that everyone believes in god, and the Adam and Eve story. Which not everyone does. Besides, we live in America. Our country is NOT a theocracy. Our lives and our laws are not supposed to be ruled by the bible.

Reason #2- "The bible says homosexuality is a sin"
Again, you're implying that everyone has the same believes as you. The bible is not a valid argument. I am willing to bet most people who say these things don't follow the bible 100% themselves. They pick and choose what to follow Yet, they point to the bible and tell other people to follow.

Reason #3-"Gay marriage is unnatural"
Because, animals in nature line up at the alter to marry, right? If you think about it, marriage itself is unnatural. How many of us live exactly as nature intended? Yeah, last time I checked, cell phones, computers and processed foods don't grow in nature. Unless you live as nature intended, you have no business telling others what they are doing is bad because it's unnatural. Practice what you preach.

Reason #4- "They can't produce children naturally."
No, they can't. Which means they won't have kids by accident either. AND, marriage isn't just about having kids anymore. A long time ago, when people died young and the child fatality right was extremely high, yes marriage was mostly about producing children. Nowadays, this isn't a problem. People who don't want, or can't have kids can get married. What's the diffidence. If a gay or lesbian couple want to have kids, they can adopt. There are plenty of children who need loving homes. Children, who by the way where abandoned by HETERO parents. while it's true that some are true orphans (meaning BOTH parents are confirmed DEAD. Not missing or just abandoned the child.) I'm willing to bet most children were abandoned because their parents couldn't provide for them. So, you're telling me it's better to let a child rot in the system then let them have good living homes, even if it is with a 'non traditional' family?

Reason #5- It runs traditional marriage" or marriage is between one man and one woman"
This is another biblical argument, or at least one that has it's roots in the bible. Actually, the bible never said that. If you actually look at the bible, and just in history in general. You will see that men frequently had more then one wife. "traditional marriage" also pretty much meant that a woman became property of her husband. It wasn't about love or commitment, it was about producing children and/or gaining wealth and status. Today, most people marry for love, and usually the woman does not become her husband's property. So traditional marriage is already out the door. And, that's not really a bad thing.

Reason #6- It will lead to allowing pedophiles, and people who want to marry their animals to be able to marry" or "it will lead to polygamy and insest"
Let's talk about pedophiles and people who commit bestiality being allowed to marry first: When I speak about marriage today, I am speaking about CONSENTING ADULTS. In other words, people who are willingly and legally allowed to sign an marriage contract. A child under the age of 18 is not legally allowed to enter into a contract. An animal may be able to be trained to sign an marriage contract, but the contract is not binding, as animals do not have the legal status of humans and therefore also cannot enter into a contract. Also, an animal cannot consent to the marriage, and a child most likely wouldn't want to marry a pedophile either. Thus, neither union is binding. As for polygamy and insest. Well, that may be the only legit argument. However, insest is already legal in more states then gay marriage is. Also, this is another debate altogether, but I'm not completely against polygamy. I guess if everyone in the union agrees and is of age, and the women can have more then one husband if they want, I really see nothing wrong with it. It's not something a support as much as gay marriage, but it's not something I detest either.

Reason #7- "If everyone is gay, the human race will die out'
This is true enough. However, not everyone will become gay if gay marriage is legalized. In American, it is already legal to practice homosexual acts. so how will marriage change the fact that being gay is a fairly rare thing?

Those are the most common reasons I hear why people are so against gay rights to marry. With just a bit or common sense and reasoning, each one can be exposed for just how ridiculous it is. I'm sure there are more reasons against gay marriage, and I'm sure some people can do a better job at debating this then I can, but these are just my thoughts. My ramblings, so to speak.

Now, i move to the right for gay people to adopt, and reasons why people are against it.

Reason#1- "a child needs a male and female role model in their lives"
I was raised by a single mom, as were my sisters. We grew up just fine. And so did many other children of single parents. Besides positive male and female role models can be found outside the home too. Teachers, charitable and honest sports starts and celebrities, friends, and other family members can all be examples of positive male and female role models for a child.

Reason #2- "god/nature made it so they can't have children, therefore, they must be unfit to be parents"
God/nature also made some [people sterile, but some of these people want to be parents too. Are they unfit because they can't have children naturally? of course not. sterile men and women can adopt/ use Ivf/a surrogate mother. Why is it different for gay and lesbian people who want to be parents?

Reason #3-"Gay parents will raise gay children" aka brainwash them, or they will "catch the gay"
Being gay is not contagious. you have about as much chance of becoming gay by hanging around gay people then you do by becoming tall by hanging around tall people (believe me, I've tried to get tall that way, it doesn't work) Most gay people do not want to brainwash children into their lifestyle. Most children who grow up with gay or lesbian parents grow up straight. The difference is they tend to be more open minded about different lifestyles.

Those are the main reasons that i can think of right now. Again, I'm sure there's much more and I'm sure others can explain it better. The "homosexual agenda" (whatever that is) has never badly affected me. If I ever have kids someday, I will have no problem explaining to them why some people have two mommies or two daddies. I will have no problem saying "love is love, and it's all beautiful."
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~AmazingGracee May 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a great stamp!

I am "straight" (though I hate to call it that) and my family is very, very good friends with an older lesbian couple. They have taught me a good view on how healthy marriages work. We are so close to them, I sometimes almost consider them my grandmothers!!

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality. And, to add to your 3rd point, there are actual recorded gay animal couples in nature.
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Oh boy, this is a good one! Before I kill some of my brain cells for satire purposes, I want to congratulate you on a good stamp and message.

Women want to have a career outside of the kitchen and get a real job as if they are the husband! This is clearly an agenda to doom all men as stay-at-home dads! PROTECT TRADTIONAL MARRIAGE! Those negro’s want to marry us white folk! We’ll be forced to marry black people! PROTECT TRADTIONAL MARRIGE! Homosexuality is a sin and against God’s law and marriage is religious right! Oh, a heterosexual atheist couple want to get married? Have no problem with that. PROTECT TRADTIONAL MARRIAGE!

Some Christians even go as far as claim THEIR rights are being taken away if same-sex marriage is allowed. What rights exactly? The “right” to treat people you don’t like as sub-human pieces of shit?
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I support gays!
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:iconcharitynorn:
Hmph! I disagree.
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:iconpokegirl623:
Have fun being on the wrong side of history! :heart:
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:iconcharitynorn:
Yeah, you do that. :I
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:iconpokegirl623:
Well, you will be! Just like every racist that supported segregation, slavery, and hated interracial marriages.
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:iconcharitynorn:
Nope, you are wrong.
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:iconpokegirl623:
Oh, goodness. What a convincing argument! Honestly, if you seriously think gay rights will never be a thing in most first world countries- you must be stupidly misinformed about anything beyond your front door.
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:iconcharitynorn:
Well, well, well... Arn't you smart. :I NOPE. I hope you are joking, if you are not... You are just plain stupid...
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